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Bonemaro
05-06-2009, 10:17 AM
I got to work today, turned off my wipers and rather than pulling down into the parked location, they did this.

http://www.v6f-body.com/picture.php?albumid=2&pictureid=253

My thought is that maybe there's a gear setup in the motor drive housing that reverses the wipers into the parked position and that it's defective.

Could it be anything else? Any ideas?

freakv6
05-06-2009, 10:32 AM
they still work like normal other then that? I would think your right if so. Only other thought would be a problem with the acutal switch.

Bonemaro
05-06-2009, 10:36 AM
Yeah, operation is normal. When you turn them off, they go down to the low position, pause like normal, but rather than going into park, they go up to where you see in the pic.

freakv6
05-06-2009, 10:41 AM
oh wait, so they go to the bottom like they are gonna go down, but instead of going down that final inch or two they spring back up like that? thats crazy lol.

Bonemaro
05-06-2009, 10:48 AM
Yes, exactly what they do. I was under the impression, since the motor itself doesn't reverse, there was a gear that activates to reverse the direction and pull the wipers into park. I was thinking if that gear wasn't going into postion, perhaps it would cause the blades to go back up the windshield. That's my theory anyway.

freakv6
05-06-2009, 11:08 AM
I support this theory, though my limited knowledge of the wiper system doesn't help. Time for some research.

freakv6
05-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Ok from what i have found with a little search its going to be the motor. Its saying the park switch located inside the motor is most likely shorted, thus causing this problem. I doubt wiper motors are that expensive, could probably pick one up at a junkyard.

SpeedingFirebird
05-06-2009, 12:03 PM
Sounds to me like the wipers are not set on the gears properly. If they are a little loose and get caught the gear will turn w/out the wiper. I bet you'll find the motor is doing the right thing, but the wiper is not set on right.

Shine a flashlight into the cowl and have Mrs Bone turn off the wipers. Observe the direction of the wiper motors and the position of the arms/gears.

Bonemaro
05-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Sounds to me like the wipers are not set on the gears properly. If they are a little loose and get caught the gear will turn w/out the wiper. I bet you'll find the motor is doing the right thing, but the wiper is not set on right.

Shine a flashlight into the cowl and have Mrs Bone turn off the wipers. Observe the direction of the wiper motors and the position of the arms/gears.

I'm not following the logic here. And motors? Isn't there just one motor?

tkoforpresident
05-06-2009, 05:04 PM
ok bone, this EXACT thing happened to me.

what happened is that on your windshield wiper motor there is a small disk that is depressed with a spring and set into a groove. if that gets popped out or a certain "metal catch" is broken instead of going into the park mode they will stick up.

it's super annoying having them in the UP position while driving so at first i just turned them on, waited til they were in the DOWN position then pulled the fuse lol

that is, until it started to rain and i would have to put it back in... not convenient.

your best bet?

buy a new motor that your sure works. you can get them on ebay or anywhere else for about 25$. just about any motor from f-bodies from 93-2002 will work and interchange.

you will have to spend an hour or two on the install getting the cowl off and detaching the old motor and swapping in the new one etc. however, instead of trying to "fix" your current motor, just grab a new one and go from there.

if you need more info on exactly how the swap is done let me know, but for now i suggest you get a new ww motor first.

max

tkoforpresident
05-06-2009, 05:06 PM
here, this is what i'm talkin abouthttp://home.comcast.net/~funkz/fixwipers.jpg

Bonemaro
05-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Actually, the 99-02's have a completely different setup from the 93-98's.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore//1313/full/19910017_a1c_401000_main.jpg
93-98


http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore//1313/full/19910161_a1c_401011_main.jpg
99-02

tkoforpresident
05-06-2009, 05:20 PM
Actually, 99-02 have a completely different setup from the 93-98's.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore//1313/full/19910017_a1c_401000_main.jpg
93-98


http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore//1313/full/19910161_a1c_401011_main.jpg
99-02



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i'd still replace the motor.

Bonemaro
05-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Yeah, that's what it's looking like. I guess for now I just grab a switch and a couple spade connectors and replace the fuse with that. I can flip the switch to turn on the wipers.

SpeedingFirebird
05-06-2009, 08:17 PM
I'm not following the logic here. And motors? Isn't there just one motor?

It is hard to describe, and I only have a sec right now. The motor continuously turns in one direction turning a shaft. The shaft is hooked to gears that take rotation and switch it so side to side. Think of a single spot on the output shaft of the motor - when that spot goes from the 9:00 to 3:00 positions, the wipers go up, when that spot goes from 3:00 - 9:00, the wipers go down. When the wipers themselves are off a little this mechanism puts the wipers in strange places when they are supposed to be parked.

I had this problem on my Jetta when I replaced the wiper motor and didn't mark the wipers.

http://news.carjunky.com/how_stuff_works/how_windshield_wipers_work_c131.shtml

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/wiper1.htm

Check out the animation in the second link. If the wiper arms attached to the assembly get slightly off, when your motor goes to park the wipers, it could actually lift them up instead. This is what happened on my Jetta.

Bonemaro
06-14-2009, 05:24 PM
Problem solved. I finally got around to installing the new motor. It wasn't too bad of a job, but I would rate it about a 4 on the bitchometer getting the linkage snapped back together.