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Fireproof13
09-09-2009, 09:51 PM
I am wanting to upgrade my exhaust and I have pretty much decided on flowmaster, but I can't decide between the 80 series or the Super 44. Does anyone know anything about the super 44 or have used it?

freakv6
09-09-2009, 10:02 PM
I really like the sound of the 44 over the 80 series personally. just a question though, why have you chosen flowmaster?

Fireproof13
09-09-2009, 11:19 PM
It's affordable and from what I've heard sounds pretty mean

freakv6
09-09-2009, 11:21 PM
yea good sound and cost....you just give up good flow. Ever thought about TSP rumbler?

Fireproof13
09-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Never really looked into it, are they pretty good for flow?

Capone
09-09-2009, 11:31 PM
The TSP Rumbler is a 3" setup thats basically 3" piping with a bullet (dynomax I think??) welded on it. It flows extremely well and puts Flowmaster to SHAME. Plus its very affordable for it being a full catback.

Fireproof13
09-09-2009, 11:37 PM
Would that have enough back pressure for a 3.8?

Capone
09-09-2009, 11:46 PM
Definitely man. I ran a 3" setup on my car when the engine was stock and it did just fine. Now you will get a tiny drop in low end torque but its not even noticeable.

WarShrike
09-09-2009, 11:47 PM
The backpressure argument is really a joke IMO. You want optimal flow and scavenging. 4" would be too much pipe for our cars, same as going with 3" true duals. You want the velocity to keep up, you don't want stalling/turbulence.

If you want some soundclipes, the TSP rumbler is on my car go see the showcase videos for TSP rumbler + FFF LT's.

If you don't want to spend a bit on that, there is another cheaper route utilizing Summit, we call it the 13secV6 catback because that's who first posted about it. Full 3" catback for a low cost, sounds good but still a bit of a sleeper look.

Click here for link: Clicky (http://www.v6f-body.com/showthread.php?t=1436)

Italia
09-09-2009, 11:52 PM
The TPS rumbler is awesome. I love how it sounds and from what I hear it has an amazing flow.

I use Magnaflow myself but if you're set on Flowmaster then go with the 80

Fireproof13
09-10-2009, 12:24 AM
I'm thinkin about leaving the stock piping, but going with just a glass pack, does anyone know how that would sound...I know I'm cheap, lol

freakv6
09-10-2009, 09:19 AM
Would have a decent sound to it, but i would really look into the catback if you can afford it. i used to have the TSP Rumbler, and wish i would have not gotten rid of it.

Capone
09-10-2009, 09:46 AM
I'm thinkin about leaving the stock piping, but going with just a glass pack, does anyone know how that would sound...I know I'm cheap, lol

It would pretty much rasp out the ass.

You're still pushing air out of little 2.25" pipes. You might as well save up the coin for a proper catback.

Hot Rod
09-10-2009, 11:55 AM
Glasspack? NO!
Stock piping with glasspack? HELL NO!

:lol:
It will sound terrible. Cheapest and best thing to do;
Get a cutout, upgrade the piping to at least 2.75", Let a exhaust shop make it for you and keep your stock exhaust from axle back.

You'll be able to have a quiet car when you like and a loud car when you like. :)

Fireproof13
09-10-2009, 04:36 PM
I will look into upgrading the pipe, I'm just worried that it would start to get expensive fast with all new piping. But I will look into it

freakv6
09-10-2009, 04:39 PM
just for an idea...know what max u wanna spend is?

Fireproof13
09-10-2009, 04:45 PM
i really don't want to spend much more than 100, I'm tryin to figure out the best way to make it sound good for as cheap as possible. Here is another option I thought of, straight pipes? Would that sound like crap?

Fireproof13
09-10-2009, 04:46 PM
The thing is, I'm probably gonna sell this car in the near future so I don't wanna throw alot of money into it to get probably the same amount back as if I left it alone, but I do want to do some upgrading

freakv6
09-10-2009, 04:48 PM
gonna be raspy as can be. at 100 bucks i would consider the stock exhaust with a cutout. You could also delete the stock muffler and add a dynomax style muffler to essentially create a rumbler with smaller diameter pipe.

Fireproof13
09-10-2009, 04:51 PM
That sounds more like my budget lol, I might go straight pipes till I get some extra cast and then add some sort of small muffler, or I might just wait.

Fireproof13
09-11-2009, 12:02 AM
So it sounds like I probably just landed a job at autozone so maybe I will go with a good catback

Birdfood
09-11-2009, 01:16 AM
i realy like the borla sound i have....:}!!!!!
my old set up was a 3inch from the y pipe with 3inc gutted cat and a 3inch flowmaster with 2 outlets and 3.5 inch tips to loud and raspy but flowed good and no there was power loss with both setups... if your cheap a shop can build the 3inch setup cheaper than a cat back but it is raspy..lol

Need For Steve
09-11-2009, 03:03 AM
yea, deff magnaflow catback. if that's a lil pricey for you, the Flowmaster American thunder catback isn't bad either.

Hot Rod
09-11-2009, 09:39 AM
Also, The bigger the piping, The deeper the tone gets which means less rasp.

I've got 3" on my car going to a cutout and I think its the best sound for the v6's. The stock 2 into 1 setup anyways, True duals sound the absalute best but thats pricey.

80$ got my 3" piping made and a cutout costs 40$ on summit(pending the brand)

Thats cheaper then most catbacks and will sound better, IMO.

bob8703
09-11-2009, 12:14 PM
dang i should have done that. i spent a good bit for my stainless steel magnaflow... but it does sound awsome. have to tighten some clamps to get rid of a couple leaks though

WVBird99
09-11-2009, 05:04 PM
dang i should have done that. i spent a good bit for my stainless steel magnaflow... but it does sound awsome. have to tighten some clamps to get rid of a couple leaks though

Im glad to see magnaflows getting positive feedback :dood: ...i havent yet got to install mine and ive been curious to what it will sound like, ive heard the clips but nothing does it true justice like in person..

Need For Steve
09-11-2009, 05:49 PM
i should put myself an F-body magnaflow kit on the Buick :gears:

Fireproof13
09-16-2009, 10:34 PM
So today I bought a high flow raptor muffler made by flowtech, and I must say I really like the results, it is super low, but does have some rasp as I expected. I'll put up a video if anyone is curious.

Need For Steve
09-16-2009, 11:31 PM
<~~~~ IS Curious :popcorn:

Italia
09-16-2009, 11:55 PM
who is?

Will
09-17-2009, 12:06 AM
So today I bought a high flow raptor muffler made by flowtech, and I must say I really like the results, it is super low, but does have some rasp as I expected. I'll put up a video if anyone is curious.


and video???

Hot Rod
09-17-2009, 01:48 PM
Video indeed.
I'm sure it sounds just like the summit turbo though. Basicaly the same muffler.

Good choice.

Fireproof13
09-17-2009, 06:54 PM
I'm still working on the video. I made one last night but it was terrible and distorted so I will try again today sometime.

Fireproof13
09-22-2009, 11:01 PM
Finally a video! It sounds a quite a bit raspy and let me assure you that when I am actually driving its not nearly that bad.


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=63445096

bob8703
09-23-2009, 07:45 AM
Finally a video! It sounds a quite a bit raspy and let me assure you that when I am actually driving its not nearly that bad.


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=63445096

the rasp should tone down some once you break in the muffler.

dude i just relized you lived in kansas. what part? ill living there in a year!

Hot Rod
09-23-2009, 11:17 AM
Thats a 1 in 1 out right? What kinda tip is that? I like it...

Btw... Theres no stopping rasp on our cars when revving in N/P.
lol

EDIT: Heres my summit turbo vid... Same exact muffler as the raptor you got.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/kght20002000/th_001-1.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/kght20002000/?action=view&current=001-1.flv)

At 1st my electric cutout is open, Then closed so dont mind that part. :lol:
Gives you an idea what it sounds like thruout RPM's.

Need For Steve
09-23-2009, 05:11 PM
Btw... Theres no stopping rasp on our cars when revving in N/P.
lol



oh, but there is...stock GM resonator. it'll kill the rasp, have almost no ill effects on flow and will actually make the tone a bit deeper. listen to the Buick's latest sound clip over in my "and the buick doth liveth" thread...:naughty:

Fireproof13
09-24-2009, 12:04 PM
I live right in the exact middle of kansas bob, right next to Great Bend. I might have to look into that resonator, I was just gonna buy a catback later on but if that'll kill the rasp that could save me some money. and the tips are just o'reillys cheapo's

Fireproof13
09-24-2009, 12:04 PM
oh and it is a 1 in 1 out, but I rigged up a second tip to look like dual, lol. bolted it straight to the frame!

Hot Rod
09-24-2009, 01:13 PM
lol
Wow... Can I get a pic?

bob8703
09-24-2009, 04:30 PM
sweet ill be moving to the overland park area in less that a year. i have a magnaflow cat back on mine and i love it. it was raspy for the first few hundred miles, when i broke it in there wasnt anywhere near as much rasp. idk maybe it was just my car.

Fireproof13
09-28-2009, 10:16 PM
I'll get a pic next time i get a chance, I have to warn you tho, underneath it ain't pretty!

Fireproof13
09-28-2009, 10:17 PM
Thats cool, my girlfriend goes to school in Olathe, right next to Overland Park