View Full Version : The el tee juan's problem

06-21-2010, 01:35 PM
Alright we're finishing up the swap and everything was going smooth until this. The problem we have is in the engine harness to the body harness, but its weird all of the gauges and everything else works. Now the issue is the fuel pump will not prime, nor will the relay activate. The problem is somewhere in the c220 or c230 connections. Now I know its not the relay by testing it and trying all 3 of the other cars relays as well.

What I'm trying to figure out is if I jump the relay the car will start but the relay is getting no power to it from those connections. I'm just wondering what the people's thoughts are on this and to Ironman if you could send me a picture of your connectors I would be quite happy. Reason being I think you have the only 93 on here and the trans am was a 93. Alldata says they're the same but I was just wanting to find out. Oh yea, if you want to know which connectors they are, its the ones behind the I don't know what to call it panel.


And this is where they are:


I believe there are 4 wires in those connectors that are involved in the fuel system.

Hopefully its just one wire not being right since everything else is working. Other than that the car will crank all of the gauges are working and all the lights just this one issue, hopefully by the weekend I will be posting a video of it running.

06-26-2010, 03:04 PM
That would be the kick panel, sir. And have you checked all of your ground connections?? The fuel pump may not be properly grounded, which would mean no power running through the relay because there's no ground. Remember also that wiring colors were different between Camaros and T/As. You may have (literally) gotten a wire crossed somewhere.

06-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Yea couldn't think of the name of that panel. We didn't move any of the wires in either harness. The car starts when we bypass the relay and put a switch in its place. Its the coil thats not getting power, all of the grounds are good. What I'm thinking is its something in the anti-theft, theres a blue wire that alldata said it for a theft system or something but I haven't looked into it. What I think I'm gonna do it wire in 2 switches to the relay a spring return push button to prime it and a switch to turn it on.

06-27-2010, 12:07 AM
Oh yea It lives, oh the exhaust needs to be hooked up and need to stop rattling and a radiator and o2 sensors need to go in yet which is why we didn't let it run long. The only reason we started it today is because we took the risk when we bought it of hoping that the guy wasn't lying about it running. Still haven't found out why the relay's coil isn't getting power but it doesn't really matter that much. I'll do the whole build thread thing when its done.

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01-06-2012, 04:20 PM
where can i find pinouts on c210, c220 c210 for a 2001 firebird?

01-07-2012, 02:28 AM
where can i find pinouts on c210, c220 c210 for a 2001 firebird?
Alldata but I don't believe you have access to it. You can also find it here I believe.


01-10-2012, 10:18 AM
^you cna download all data, ive done it. Wether it was legal or not idk. but it took forever to download, so much info!!!!

Congrats on the swap, you're brave.

01-10-2012, 10:20 AM
That swap was completed 2 years ago now, not very hard to do at all.