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Bonemaro
02-14-2011, 10:04 PM
Does anyone know of a Bluetooth device I can plug into the AUX input on my head unit and wirelessly transmit audio from my phone?

freakv6
02-15-2011, 04:44 AM
The ones i have seen are dependant on which headunit you have. My alpine one has a bluetooth addon you can buy. Which headunit do you have?

edit.... looks like they do make universal bluetooth adapters for the 3.5 mm jack

http://mobile.buy.com/ibuy/ProductDetail.aspx?sellerid=18700237&loc=111&sku=211421284

You just need to find out what type bluetooth your phone transmitts

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 10:26 AM
Just get a head unit with built in BT. I'm looking at a pioneer DEH-6100bt for BT and XM..... thats all I need

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 10:51 AM
looks like they do make universal bluetooth adapters for the 3.5 mm jack

I've seen those, but a lot of folk say they don't work. Also, is this for hands free, or music, or both?




Just get a head unit with built in BT. I'm looking at a pioneer DEH-6100bt for BT and XM..... thats all I need

Hmm... now this might be the right idea. Maybe I could do this instead of the wheel swap.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 11:22 AM
Looking at these Bluetooth heads. Are they going to allow me to play music from my phone via Bluetooth, or are these just for hands free operation?

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 11:33 AM
Looking at these Bluetooth heads. Are they going to allow me to play music from my phone via Bluetooth, or are these just for hands free operation?

Hmmm? I believe that goes back to what Freak was saying and the BT type. A BT that uses A2DP profile with BT Stereo signal. If the Head unit uses this profile i'm sure it will. What Head unit are you looking at?

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 11:36 AM
I like Pioneer, but not stuck on it. I will never own a Sony and an not interested in cheap brands like Jensen or Dual.

So... Pioneer, Alpine, Clarion, Kenwood

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 11:42 AM
The 6100BT (pioneer) supports A2DP.

the only reason I'm looking at the 6100Bt and not the 6200BT is that the 6200Bt only comes in Red display. the 6100 is in Blue. the 6200Bt has a few extra aux and USB ports.

I dont like sony or kenwood. the sony or kenwoods that I have owned were not the top of the line but they also were POS's. I guess i'm a pioneer guy. I know my way around tweaking those headunits. plus even the lower end models at least aren't POS's :lol:

I've heard good things about alpine. Clarion i cannot vouch for.

The main thing is that A2DP profile (streaming stereo audio) If it doesn't support A2DP then it won't play music across the BT.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 11:44 AM
I'm looking at...

Kenwood KDC-X994 (http://www.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX994/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X994.html?tp=5684&nvpair=FFBluetooth|Built-in&nvpair=AG_Type|ffCD_Receiver&nvpair=FFiPod_Connection|[rank2]Built-in+audio+only)

Pioneer DEH-P6200BT (http://www.crutchfield.com/s_130P6200BT/Pioneer-DEH-P6200BT.html?tp=5684&nvpair=FFBluetooth|Built-in&nvpair=AG_Type|ffCD_Receiver&nvpair=FFiPod_Connection|[rank2]Built-in+audio+only)

Alpine CDE-126BT (http://www.crutchfield.com/s_500CDE126B/Alpine-CDE-126BT.html?tp=5684&nvpair=FFBluetooth|Built-in&nvpair=AG_Type|ffCD_Receiver&nvpair=FFiPod_Connection|[rank2]Built-in+audio+only)

freakv6
02-15-2011, 11:44 AM
I have seen where Pioneer is the way to go with the DX, but im not sure with your phone (though i would say its the same thing). I believe once you have the blue tooth setup you would control everything from the phone music player.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 12:00 PM
That Kenwood is looking tasty.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 12:11 PM
Kenwood KDC-X994: does support A2DP. See here (http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/1-Din_CD_Receivers/KDC-X994)

Pioneer DEH-P6200BT: I'm not sure it has A2DP. I've read that it doesn't but the pioneer site doesn't elaborate on the BT specs here (http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/22/121/61/DEH-6200BT/specs.html) like it does for the 6100BT here (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/CD-Receivers/DEH-P6100BT)
But i'm sure if the predecessor has it then it should :hmm:

Alpine CDE-126BT: according to here (http://www.stereo-car-radio.com/comparisons/alpine_cde-126bt_vs_alpine_cda-9857r) this supports A2DP.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 12:15 PM
I like pioneer. I have never had a one that I didn't like. Also I have two head units that I have used for nearly 7 years. both still work like clock work. With any head unit you have to look at the specs. they like to leave out stuff. :lol: like A2DP. I've messed with Car Stereos since I've owned a car. lol

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 12:21 PM
I've messed with Car Stereos since I've owned a car. lol

Yep, me too. At one point I was a sponsored Pro IASCA competitor. I got out of car audio and into customization, thinking it was a cheaper hobby. I have no idea what gave me that impression. :dis: :lol:


I'm really liking the Kenwood though. The 5 line display is nice and the blue matches me LED conversion.

I'll have a Pioneer DEH P6800MP with the iPod interface for sale cheap soon if I get this.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 12:27 PM
Both the Kenwood and the Alpine have steering wheel control capabilities.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 12:34 PM
since Kenwood has this, have you check your BT compatibility? here (http://www.kenwood.com/cs/ce/bt/index.php)

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 01:52 PM
Called. They said blue tooth and mp3 playback is not a problem. They say my only issue would be Pandora. Currently (Crutchfield says), Pandora bluetooth playback is supported only by the iPhone app.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 02:06 PM
I just dl pandora and it plays fine onmy moto s-9 stereo bt headphones.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 02:09 PM
What phone?

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 02:17 PM
Droid x

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 02:18 PM
From what I'm reading and being told... it all boils down to A2DP support. The Kenwood obvious support this, as does my Epic. I've seen a message on Pandora from time to time that says my Bluetooth is disabled, so it must be looking for something. Maybe this will work.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 02:20 PM
Droid x

Ok, well if your X is working with your A2DP headset, no reason why it wouldn't work on a A2DP radio... unless 2.1 OS forbids it... which wouldn't surprise me. :dis:

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 02:35 PM
How about this instead?

Clarion VZ400 (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_020VZ400/Clarion-VZ400.html?tp=5684&nvpair=FFBrand|Clarion&nvpair=FFPrice_Range|[rank4]%24251+-+%24450)

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/products/20100/020/p020VZ400-f_mt.jpeg

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 03:03 PM
nice....


BTW are you committed to pandora? I use XM (not free of course) and Last.fm free

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 03:13 PM
Yes, I like Pandora. I just use it 'cause it's on the phone. Noise is noise.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 03:28 PM
I like Last.fm. Its not like they are much different. however the XM app sound quality is much nicer. it doesn't have that across the internet sound. (reduced kb/sec) i'm use to sat radio..... i'm spoiled.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 03:51 PM
All those apps support bluetooth I assume?

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 03:55 PM
Yes sir!

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 04:03 PM
So there is hope for internet radio in my car. Did you tell with the free Pandora or do you have a subscription?

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 04:49 PM
I guess the free, i have an account?

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 04:53 PM
last.fm is the same way. xm is the only one that i have used that has a high quality sound. Now having said that during low bandwidth connections i have had xm switch to a low quality stream and then switches back once the connection speed improves. all depends on where you are. very rarely do i hear it do that but it does happen. I'm sure that pandora and last.fm are the same way and compensate for connection speed.

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 04:58 PM
Pandora has a high band stream. Sounds pretty good to me... unless I'm using the Sennheiser studio monitors. Then all MP3's sound bad. But the monitors are for critical listening and mixing, so I would expect them to point out MP3's flaws.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 05:28 PM
Your probably right. I don't listen to internet radio since I have Xm. I couldn't give up.my Xm. I don't have cds in my car any more and because my head unit is Xm ready no wires. Yes!!!!!!!!

You know what's funny. I only listen to one channel. HA! OCTANE!!!!!

Bonemaro
02-15-2011, 05:44 PM
Duane while I got you, how much is the XM?

1LOMARO
02-15-2011, 06:33 PM
XM is like 12 bucks a month.

xpbr2000
02-15-2011, 06:46 PM
yeah 1LO is correct. i think this is about correct

$10 = xm mostly music
$13 = xm everything or internet radio
$17 = best of xm & sirius everything

goto www.siriusxm.com/subscriptions

TheGr8Schlotzky
02-16-2011, 01:25 AM
If you're big on sound quality, which it sounds like you are, I wouldn't recommend satellite radio. I had Sirius for about 3 days before cancelling it since I couldn't justify paying for muddy music that I still didn't get to pick.

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 01:34 AM
I'm not getting satellite. For years, I've just used my iPod and since September, Pandora or MP3s on my Epic.

freakv6
02-16-2011, 09:59 AM
I use slacker myself, but have the paid version. I had slacker for home use before, so thats about the only reason i went with there app when i got my phone.

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 10:16 AM
If you're big on sound quality, which it sounds like you are, I wouldn't recommend satellite radio. I had Sirius for about 3 days before cancelling it since I couldn't justify paying for muddy music that I still didn't get to pick.

Muddy music?

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 10:44 AM
I contacted the developers at Pandora about the Android Bluetooth question and they suggested I do the obvious... go to Best Buy and see if it works. Never thought of that. :dis:

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 10:48 AM
What? they couldn't tell you if it support A2DP bluetooth devices....... didn't they develop it? :dis:


But yeah I guess that is the most "fool" proof way to answer. :lol:

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 10:51 AM
It does support A2DP, but they can't vouch for the head unit.

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 02:48 PM
So... I went to Best Buy. Looked at a few BT heads. They were recognizing my more. NOSsy called me and her name came up on the display. I could also see my contact lists. However, no audio.

After we left Best Buy, I was unpairing the phone from the heads we tested and I noticed an options menu. In the menu was an unchecked item that read "Use phone for audio play"

I bet that was the issue. Probably disables the A2DP profile.

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 02:50 PM
yeah i've read that too

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 02:59 PM
What that people don't know to enable it?

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 03:49 PM
On my earlier post about the pioneer deh-6200bt. some people have said that it doesn't work and others have said that they have to switch it to A2DP everytime.

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 03:55 PM
That with be horribly inconvenient.

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 04:07 PM
I'm thinking it needs to be turned on before you pair. they probably didn't do that. when you pair your phone to a device, it establishes the services that device provides. maybe because it was turned off that service wasn't listed. I see no reason why it would need to be turned on every time you connect to it.

TheGr8Schlotzky
02-16-2011, 04:29 PM
Muddy music?

Muddy sound quality. Mid and mid-bass heavy with weak treble reproduction.

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 04:37 PM
I'll have to listen closer because my XM tuner doesn't sound like its missing any range. I do have the treble and the bass amplified. (somehwhat) the treble is amped from the head unit (not excessively) and the bass from a Rockford Fosgate Punch amp and 12" punch HE sub :hmm: Lemme get back to you on that. I wonder if I can run the headunit eq flat with a cd and with the xm and get a recorded comparison.

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 05:32 PM
I'm thinking it needs to be turned on before you pair. they probably didn't do that. when you pair your phone to a device, it establishes the services that device provides. maybe because it was turned off that service wasn't listed. I see no reason why it would need to be turned on every time you connect to it.

It didn't give me the options until after it was paired.

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 05:36 PM
Well I guess not then. that will suck if you must turn the A2DP on every time. I might stop by best buy one day this week and try it on my droid X. which unit did you test out?

1LOMARO
02-16-2011, 05:43 PM
I can tell a major difference in my truck between CD's and the XM.

xpbr2000
02-16-2011, 06:04 PM
How it yours connected to you headunit?

Bonemaro
02-16-2011, 06:12 PM
Well yeah... a CD has many times the data rate (>1.4Mbps) of the compressed XM data (~128kbms).

1LOMARO
02-16-2011, 07:08 PM
I've got the RoadyXT... i'm a cheap ass that likes to move the unit from vehicle to vehicle.

Bonemaro
02-17-2011, 12:40 PM
Ok y'all. When to Best Buy and that Kenwood is SHWWWEEEEEET.

Bonemaro
02-22-2011, 10:59 PM
I'm happy to report, the bluetooth HU works flawlessly with the Epic. Hand free calling, contacts, call logs, sms displaying and streaming audio PERFECT!

xpbr2000
02-22-2011, 11:00 PM
wow sms displaying?

Bonemaro
02-23-2011, 01:04 AM
wow sms displaying?

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